Posts by Sour Grapes

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One day assembly

by Sour Grapes in

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at a recent one day assembly i walked away with the thought that the wtbts sure does not like witnesses who have the opportunity to make a good living.

there were, in one day, three experiences of witnesses who turned down "6 figure salaries" because there would be some traveling involved and some meetings would be missed as well as missing family worship night.

i thought it strange that the exact phrase was used of "6 figure salary".

Sour Grapes

At a recent one day assembly I walked away with the thought that the WTBTS sure does not like Witnesses who have the opportunity to make a good living. There were, in one day, three experiences of Witnesses who turned down "6 figure salaries" because there would be some traveling involved and some meetings would be missed as well as missing Family Worship Night. I thought it strange that the exact phrase was used of "6 figure salary". I guess the end is so close that they don't have to worry about their retirement and who needs the extra money anyway.

It was also announced in the afternoon that there is a $11,000 deficit for the day at the assembly hall and that they were sure that with every ones help that this would be taken care of. Keep them poor and keep asking for more. For the first time my wife asked me how the expenses could be so much for one day? The WTBTS has got a real racket going on. Now there are two different circuits that meet on Saturday and Sunday and they charge $12,000 for each day. I remember not that long ago that it was $8,000 for two days.

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Mandatory voting in USA

by Sour Grapes in

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i am sure that president obama's saying today that mandatory voting in the usa would be a good thing is going to get the witnesses all excited as they look forward to being persecuted for not voting.

just another sign showing how deep we are into the times of the end and how close they are to burying billions of people who don't read the watchtower.. sour grapes .

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I am sure that President Obama's saying today that mandatory voting in the USA would be a good thing is going to get the Witnesses all excited as they look forward to being persecuted for not voting. Just another sign showing how deep we are into the times of the end and how close they are to burying billions of people who don't read the Watchtower.

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What are the Witnesses Afraid Of ?

by Sour Grapes in

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if the witnesses have the truth and have been going to meetings for many years and every week they learn how to be effective in the ministry and learn about the bible on sundays and every week have a family worship night, why are they afraid to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with them or question their beliefs?

if they have the truth then nothing can refute it.

the truth is the truth.

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If the Witnesses have the Truth and have been going to meetings for many years and every week they learn how to be effective in the ministry and learn about the Bible on Sundays and every week have a Family Worship Night, why are they afraid to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with them or question their beliefs? If they have the Truth then nothing can refute it. The truth is the truth. They either can't explain what they believe, they don't know what they believe, they don't care what they believe, or maybe it is as simple as they don't have the Truth. Maybe the easy way out is to say "Oh my God it is an apostate, we can't talk to you". Then they will brag to other Witnesses that they came across an apostate in service like it is a badge of honor.

Even if you were not a Witness and do not go to church and don't believe if God, they would still call you an apostate if you ask them about the overlapping generations or is it fair to need two witnesses in child molesting cases.

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Epic Discussion ( Confrontation ) with JW Cart People about WT Child Abuse

by flipper in

so i had about had enough of reading jw's excuses online about wt child abuse and the candace conti nightline abc video about her case.

this is a really deep burning topic to me as i'm sure it is to many of you.

so today the gloves came off.

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Isn't it amazing how bug eyed Witnesses get when they think apostate and they act like if they touch any apostate information, which may be a simple news article or a well written church tract, their arm will fall off or they will be struck blind. They sure act crazy.

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'If you go to my church this Sunday I will go to yours next Sunday'

by Sour Grapes in

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how many witnesses would take up that offer if a person at the door asked them?

if that doesn't scream out "cult"!

if you know too much about the witnesses then you are an apostate.

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How many Witnesses would take up that offer if a person at the door asked them? I am willing to say that not one would. If that doesn't scream out "CULT"! then nothing does. Witnesses wants everyone to read their literature, however anything from any other religion is off limits to them. If you know too much about the Witnesses then you are an apostate. If you know more about their religion than they do or more about the Bible you are an apostate. If you talk about the problem with child molesters with a Witness you are an apostate. If you are in and question anything seriously you will be called an apostate.

The Witchtower Bable and Trick Society knows what they are doing.

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To all anointed wannabe losers, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, OR ELSE!!!!!

by DATA-DOG in

once again the beloved and loving governing body are demonstrating their utmost disdain for the rank and file members of the jehovah church.

let us review this interesting trend, starting with some facts!

yay, facts!!!

Sour Grapes

Why doesn't the Borg just fudge the numbers? That would save a lot of grief. They could start reducing the numbers by 500 per year and in 12 years be back to the 8,000 count. Hold steady at 8,000 for 6 years, then reduce 400 a year down to 6,000. That would chew up 23 years. By that time anyone who believed in "stay alive to 75" will be dead or have dementia and 1914 will be almost 125 years in the past.

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YOU MIGHT BE A J.W.

by brandnew in

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if getting ready means putting on a suit........ you might be a j.w.. if going out to the field has nothing to do with grass, baseball diamonds, or football ......... you might be a j.w.. please continue my friends.......i know ya got some.....; ).

Sour Grapes

You may be a J.W. if you have a Bible study without using the Bible.

You may be a J.W. if you introduce someone at the kingdom hall not by their name but as "your Bible study".

You may be a J.W. if going on vacation is going to a summer convention and going swimming at the hotel.

You may be a J.W. if you don't know what "soon" means.

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Mom says, "CO says there's only 15 years left!"

by Separation of Powers in

i don't typically hear from my mom often, but i tell you, over the past couple of weeks, i have heard from her several times.

you heard the comment about "our way of worship will be altered" and thank you for your posts by the way....but yesterday, she calls and is asking about the kids and then, in typical jw fashion mind you, says:.

"you know, you should really get back to meetings.

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I was told in the 1960's that I would never finish high school. Well let's see...I finished high school, my children finished high school and some of my grandchildren have finished high school. I have been told...."Well just think how much closer we are now than when your were in high school." When I tell some JW's that are my age that I have accepted that I am going to die in this system of things they at first look a little surprised and then I see in their eyes that they know that is the truth, they just can't say it themselves.

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The scared little girl in the basement

by brandnew in

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im kinda mad, its hard to shake off the look of that little girls face...standing in someones basement, scared.. why the hiding?

if these people werent in this basement, would they be killed?

all them years of studying and being loyal, and its come to this.......being scared in a basement....all bad !

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Someone today commented that it looks like the little girl is saying to the reader "are your ready? After the letter is read do they go home and go back to work the next day or are they stuck in the basement until everyone is destroyed?

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Ony J.W.'s could do this and not question what is going on

by Sour Grapes in

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at the meeting today several elders commented about the wonderful program that they attended yesterday on the new kingdom hall designs.

they said that the new halls are going to be so beautiful with lots of windows and glass panels and that the lights will be kept on in the lobby 24/7 so that you can see into the hall at night and that thousands of these halls must be built.

then five minutes later they are talking about how close the end is and that we will be meeting in basements in the near future.

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At the meeting today several elders commented about the wonderful program that they attended yesterday on the new kingdom hall designs. They said that the new halls are going to be so beautiful with lots of windows and glass panels and that the lights will be kept on in the lobby 24/7 so that you can see into the hall at night and that thousands of these halls must be built. Then five minutes later they are talking about how close the end is and that we will be meeting in basements in the near future. So everyone is worked up into a frenzy about the new design and how exciting this will be while at the same time fearing that if they miss one meeting that they may not know whose basement to meet in.

I go to a hall that is very nice and is under 8 years old. It was commented on how we will visited by the new group that visits halls to decide who gets to build new and who will just get a remodeled hall. My bet is that the Org will get very one whipped up on the new design that everyone will vote on selling the existing residential halls and building the newer cheaper versions, which will not use a wood structure but rather the steel framing, and who gets to keep the savings?

I would guess that the stage will not built in with rooms on the side of the stage because that will take away from the resale value and it already sounds like there is not going to be a built in literature counter, which takes away from the resale value, since the larger version of the portable trolleys will be used. The room by the entrance fits in nicely for the resale value since very business wants a room where you can meet with customers or vendors when they come in the door. No doubt the spacing of the windows will be to easily accommodate new walls when the hall is sold. All of the halls that had their loans forgiven will get to go in debt again with window projects and putting in glass panels.